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 Post subject: Database Entry/Posting Removal Suggestions
PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 12:07 pm 
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Hayley Mills in . . . A & E Biography: Hayley Mills Seeing Double
OK, now can you imagine that A & E would be showing a scene of nudity with Hayley Mills? No. Not sure why this is in the database. :?:


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 Post subject: The squeaky wheel gets the grease
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 Post subject: Hayley Mills in . . . A & E Biography: Hayley Mills Seei
PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 10:14 am 
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It still appears in the Browse Titles listing.
An error appears if the link is clicked.
Several other links in your browse titles/actor/actress do not work either
IE - Á Chacun son Tour and Á Chacun son Tour 1997

Plus can you fix the listings that start with the word "A" and "The" and put the A and The in the correct position?
and any other foreign "De, Le, Der, possibilities"?

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 Post subject: Re: Hayley Mills in . . . A & E Biography: Hayley Mills
PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 9:22 pm 
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thefaceman32 wrote:
Plus can you fix the listings that start with the word "A" and "The" and put the A and The in the correct position?
and any other foreign "De, Le, Der, possibilities"?


I disagree with this -- I think "The Matrix" looks better than "Matrix, The."

Maybe the CNdb can add a search parameter to ignore the words "The" and "A" when alphabetizing titles?

If not, then just browse for "The Matrix" under T.

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 Post subject: Title format
PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 5:42 pm 
I know it seems ridiculous to fuss over the use of articles in a title, but I have to disagree with sinnema. Whether "The Matrix" looks better than "Matrix, The" is an aesthetic question about which I don't feel strongly. In real life, though, I just think it's crazy to expect people to browse for "The Matrix" under the letter "T." Alphabetization procedures have excluded articles like "The" or "A" for centuries. Changing now will only create confusion, since every other list (including, for example, the imdb) excludes articles for the purposes of alphabetical order. In many cases, people aren't in the habit of remembering articles at the beginning of a title: Is the Clint Eastwood Movie called "Perfect World," "A Perfect World," or "The Perfect World"? I agree with the earlier suggestion that the handling of articles should if anything be regularized to exclude articles at the beginning of the title (although the handling of foreign articles would be more controversial, since English speakers are used to looking up "Das Boot" under the letter "D").


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 Post subject: Articles ...
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I'm just saying, it should be a database programming issue, not an aesthetic issue.

For example, when browsing titles by letter, CNdb should be programmed to ignore the letter A and word The when listing movie titles alphabetically -- regardless of how the titles were entered.

But when you type "The Matrix" into the Search box, it will still give you the result of the movie by that name.

Now, if the Search could be reprogrammed to recognize multiple words out of order, then you could find the movie by searching for both "Matrix, The" and "The Matrix" -- but right now, we have to have an exact match to the words in the exact order they appear in the title.

For example, searching for "Femme Nikita, La" returns no results, while searching for "La Femme Nikita" does return results -- but if multi-word searches were possible, then they would both return the same result.

I think more people use the Search box than the alphabetical browse function, so priority should go to making the Search function more intuitive, and not require people to think like librarians.

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 Post subject: Recent review correction...
PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 3:31 am 
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Gloria Mann in . . . Point Break
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See the movie, apparently adailymovie2 does not know there is a message board (maybe promote the message board a little bigger for awhile until members know that it is there)
I am surprised that there are not a lot of users posting all of those movies that there were previously complaining about before


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 Post subject: SMG/JLH/Britney/no nudity entires - removal??
PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 9:59 pm 
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OK, not to demolish any sacred cows, but:

Is there any way that Britney Spears in Crossroads (2002), Sundance Film Festival (2003) and MTV Punk (2003) could be removed? Even the reviewers even say there is no nudity. I know that some people consider nipple slips nudity, and I guess I can understand that, but these 3 don't even fit into that category.

Jennifer Love Hewitt:

Heartbreakers (2001) - no nudity and lots of space taken up with discussions of her having no nudity!

The Suburbans - no nudity

I Still Know What You Did Last Summer - no nudity

Do any of her more ardent fans who might be here want to discuss why these (or the other 3 or 4 entries under her name) should stay around?

Sarah Michelle Gellar:

Harvard Man - NO nudity from her or Joey Lauren Adams, yet they are both included in the entry and even discussed as not being naked

Scream 2: This is another one of those dvddish phases where he (presumably) entered a TON of people (Jada Pinkett, Jerry O'Connell, SMG, Neve Campbell, etc.) and then laughed about how they had no nudity. This has no business being on the site IMO.

Cruel Intentions: No nudity

I Know What You did Last Summer: No nudity from SMG, Jennifer or Ryan Phillippe and yet there are many entries which basically go on and on about how they don't have any nudity.

I would also look for any reviews by Pseudo Saint. He or she hasn't been around in a while, but I seem to remember this person posting a whole lot of "not naked but hot" type of filler. And as a bonus:

Kathleen "I've never seen this movie but she's sooo hot in the vidcaps" Kinmont in Stormswept - no nudity.


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 Post subject: Hurray to Ozzie700
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Thank you, those just need to be removed
Althouth I have one suggestion for the webmaster
Is there any way that you can link to IMDB so that there is some filmography that can be listed that will list the movies the actress HAS NOT been naked in? I know that someone will suggest that if it is not listed in the CNDB that they are not naked but it will prevent someone from adding these to the database when there is no nudity
And if someone discovers some unseen nudity then they can ask to get it unlocked in the message board
This is kind of like the format the Bare Facts book used that listed the actresses/actors filmography with the movies that they were nude in in bold print.
NOTE: this will ONLY be helpful if user can turn it off so they do not have to see this listed. And the search filter will only search the titles in the nudity database. :idea:


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 Post subject: Link to IMDb?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 10:42 am 
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Faceman, unless I'm missing something, your solution seems awfully cumbersome. First of all, the IMDb doesn't identify nude appearances in films. How do you propose locking off non-nude roles in a filmography which doesn't list them in the first place? Or are you proposing moderator approval before anything can be added to CNDB? I don't think that would work very well, if it's what you're advocating.

Second, you seem to put the IMDb up as an ultimate authority, when it is not. It's pretty good on some points, such as recent Hollywood mainstream stuff, but it's quite poor in other areas. They change info frequently. One of my own reviews there now looks kinda silly because IMDb messed with the credits afterward. (They had it right to begin with.) The credits now feature the wrong lead actress, who actually stars in a different film based on the same story material. The actual star, whose performance was the subject of my rave, is nowhere to be found.

I have some acquaintance with softcore and hardcore films of the late 60s into the early 80s, and these are not well represented in IMDb. Too much of the info on softcore films, e.g., comes from the Something Weird Video catalog, which is useful but doesn't always give dates and chose to use downright weird pseudos for performers who already had standard, but different, stage names. One result of this is that early 70s actress Michele Simon now has about 4 separate pages in IMDb, including a couple of pseudos she actually used and one that is a goof made by SWV. I think they also still maintain separate pages for Barbara Caron and Barbara Mills, who are the same person.

These are not the only cases. Close to 20% of the 60-odd Hindi films I own on DVD are not in the IMDb, and some of the others are listed with only as much info as you might find on the front of the box. I know that it's difficult to ID imported films of the 70s and 80s in IMDb when you only know them from the retitled, often fake-credits, US prints on big screen or video. Many recent softcore titles also seem to be poorly covered or not covered at all in IMDb, as I found when trying to track down titles I had seen reviewed on other sites and for which I was hoping to find fuller credits.


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eaglespyharry put in TWO submissions in the Life Of David Gale, so webmaster you can delete one of them.


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 Post subject: More removals
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The O thers, with Nicole Kidman NOT nude.

She Fought Alone (1996, TV) Tiffani Amber Thiessen - NOT nude

Sweet Dreams (1996, TV) Tiffani - NOT nude

Buried Secrets (1996, TV) Tiffani - NOT nude

Heather Locklear/Dynasty (TV show) - NOT nude

Charlie's Angels (TV series) - NO nudity, only the whole nipple through shirt thing


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 Post subject: Two more - Katherine Heigl And Misty Mundae
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 7:58 am 
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Katherine Heigl in . . . Descendant (2002) &
1. no nudity (like heigl will ever get nude), but there is a bra/panty scene
NOTE: you can remove both postings (or the whole listing), since there is no clarification from the webmaster as to how non-nude/bra/panty scenes should be handled in the database

2. the year is wrong anyways it should be 2003

Misty Mundae ... Vampire Strangler (i will leave that to the experts)

1. This database listing has several "nasty" postings (pre message board)
NOTE: all but the first and last posting should be removed to clean up the database entry

2. The year should be fixed to whatever the correct date should be


-ps- webmaster, is there a better way for us to start listing these inaccurate scenes so that it will not clutter up the index?
I would suggest that a New post be done and that when you correct the scene you delete the post?


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 Post subject: Some that were my Fault
PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 10:28 am 
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Since we're talking about listings that should be deleted, how about a couple of more; Randi Brooks in "COP" (1987) and Patsy Kensit in "FULL ECLIPSE". Yep I reviewed both, I think I'm the only one, and I'm pretty sure I added Miss Brooks' name in "COP", I'm definite I added "FULL ECLIPSE" and Miss Kensit's name. At least I'm willing to admit my mistakes unlike certain other people like we all know who. Anyway I'm sorry. :oops:


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 Post subject: "Zero stars" serves a purpose
PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:46 am 
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Hey, before we go nuts deleting reviews. I think each movie should have at least one review, if only to warn others that there is no nudity in the film and it should be avoided.

Think about it: If a movie has NO reviews, you might think no one has reviewed it yet and you would go out and pay money to see it. But if there IS a review that gives tha movie "zero stars" for no nudity, then you would save your money.

The CNdb is also useful for telling us which movies NOT to see. Deleting all "zero stars" reviews would be counterproductive to this end.

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