You have hit the nail on the head. Nice post.

Jessica Alba is not going to be offered roles that ask her to challenge herself. She's not talented enough to get a part that requires an ability to go to that place in her soul. If she made the decision to finally do some nudity, it would be fluff nudity and it wouldn't prove anything. Being shy or self-conscious about your body does not make a person any less-committed to their craft. She's an actress, not a stripper.

What about killing rival actresses? I mean, if she were totally committed to a role, then wouldn't she be willing to kill off any actress that might come between her and the role she's so committed to? Plain and simple, the willingness to do nudity says nothing about an actresses' commitment to their craft. In fact, many actresses who either refuse or are highly reluctant to doing nudity would probably claim that it means they're more committed to their craft. Some might say doing nude scenes is simply a short cut to getting roles, and it allows them to keep working without having to actually continue to develop their acting skills. I'm not saying that's the case, simply that it's as plausible an argument as the one you make.

Personally, I think the willingness to do nude scenes is more an issue of personal beliefs and upbringing. Some people grow up believing that nudity is no big deal, while others are raised to view it as shameful and dirty. Not being willing to do something you find objectionable to get a job isn't a lack of commitment to your craft, as much as it's a commitment to your beliefs. Let's put it this way, how is a nude scene performed by an individual who is, at least to a certain degree, a natural exhibitionist proof of commitment to their craft? If it's nothing they find to be objectionable, then it doesn't push their boundaries. If, however, the actress grew up believing that performing or posing nude was wrong, then expecting her to do it is like expecting an orthodox Jew to eat Pork, or a civil rights activist to dress up in white face. That's not necessarily commitment, it could just be selling out to get what you want. As much as I'd like to see her naked, the only way I'd have a problem with her not doing a nude scene is if she took the job knowing it required nudity, and then waited until the job started to tell the director about her problem with nudity and to try and push the director to change the scene.

Are IQ's really that low on here that people can actually still think that's what's being said?

NO ONE IS SAYING THAT SIMPLY THE ACT OF TAKING OFF HER CLOTHES IS MAKING HER MORE COMMITED BUT RATHER IT'S THE ACT OF DOING SOMETHING THAT SHE DESPERATELY DOES NOT WANT TO DO THAT IS.

example....You own a fledgling retail business and the only way you think you can drum up more business is by going around knocking on doors * now you hate distrubing people at home and can't think of doing anything worse BUT YOU DO IT ANYWAY BECAUSE YOU ARE COMMITED TO MAKING THE BUISNESS WORK.

REAL ACTRESSES ALL HAVE DIFFERENT HANG UPS BUT THEY DON'T LET THEM GET IN THE WAY OF PLAYING A PART BECAUSE OF THEIR COMMITEMENT TO THE ROLE... IN ESSENSE THEY DO IT ANYWAY.




Now I really don't think I can make it any clear than that. FM.

I'm an actress. Don't really like my 'behind', but I've done full nudity once on stage and partial nudity three times on film.
My approach is simple: who's the director and what's the project.
The rest becomes superfluous and I just sort out my own crap if I believe it's worth doing.

Very interesting post Mildmanners. So you're saying that if you decide to get involved in a project you are willing put aside your hang ups because you're commited to giving the best performance/portrayal as you possibly can?

Great to see an actress to be in here.

Do you have IMDB page? Can you recommend some of your films?

Anyway, thank you to be in this board.

When casting directors are working on Oscar-ish movies, they like to cast actresse who have done nudity at one point or another in their careers.
Since 1991, of the 20 actresses who won the Academy Award for Best Actress, only Julia Roberts did not do any nude scene.

I just don't get why this "She Has To Do Something She Desperately Doesn't Want To" stuff means nudity and only nudity! She probably doesn't want to stick her head in a bucket full of Piranhas, or do her own dangerous stunts either, but I don't hear you demanding she do that.

Also we really don't know how "Desperately She Doesn't Want To Get Naked". Maybe she's only mildly opposed to it, but has decided she's not gonna do it on principal? None of us can say "getting naked before the public is the scariest thing in the world to Jessica Alba". We don't know that. I'm sure there are things she's even more opposed to than getting naked on camera.

It seems to me you've convinced yourself she has to get naked simply because you want to see it. Well we all want to see it, but I don't think that's a very convincing reason! I doubt Jessica's gonna buy it, no matter how hard we lobby!










Yeah, but I'm willing to bet very few of the actresses won the award for a movie they were nude in. Most actresses have done some nudity at some point, but I doubt it earns them any bonus points with the academy. In fact, it seems to me (I'm not sure, haven't researched it) most of the movies that win best picture have zero nudity, and most of the actresses who win best actress win it for a role in which they did not have a nude scene.

It's doesn't, what I'm saying can apply to anything that she doesn't feel comfortable doing.

Having to repeat myself over and over is getting tiring now.

What's that got to do with anything? You're really getting daft now. The point is that those actresses having all done nudity in the past displays how professional they are, having done something that alot of actresses do not enjoy doing they have shown how seriously they take their work.
It has nothing to do with the nudity itself and actresses can display their devotion to a Role in alot of ways but this is something that all those actresses listed have in common.


If you're are unable to read posts without just picking random words out of sentences and jummbling them up to create your own meaning then I suggest you stop commenting here.

You don't have to keep repeating yourself. You just have to keep altering your position.










Even if that is what you're saying (I'm not sure it is anymore), I'm not buying the general argument that the measure of an actresses level of committment is her willingness to do something she doesn't want to.

Jessica Alba could do everything in the world she doesn't want to and she still wouldn't be taken seriously as actress. As Jel pointed out, If I was a director who had a good script, I wouldn't want Jessica ruining my movie:



I'm assuming a more committed actress means she'd be taken more seriously, they seem to go hand in hand. And if I'm wrong in that assumption, if "being more committed" won't make any difference (she'll be just as poor an actress as ever), why should she bother? Why the need?


The only "committment" she needs to show is to improve her acting skills (and simply doing something she doesn't want to won't accomplish this), and then she'll get more demanding and serious roles.

What exactly did I alternate on?



Madness.

So you're saying it doesn't show commitment to a cause for someone to persevere and endure doing something that they dislike in order to aid that cause???



That's pretty much what the definition of showing commitment is.


Madness.

Sure it does, but commitment and improvement are not the same thing. History is full of people who were committed to a cause and were a total disaster to that cause (good intentions pave the road to hell and all that).


Let me get this straight, now you're saying "She doesn't need to do a nude scene, she needs to be committed, work hard and improve her acting skills"? That's pretty much what everyone else has been saying all along.